@1 The way I handle the WAITING list is to assign a context WAITING to the task. The task itself remains in its project. Works perfectly for me.
@2 Subtasks would be easier indeed. What I do now is not using a CALENDAR list but just assign due and, if necessary, start dates. Works fine for me.
I hope this helps you. For me GTD is awesome and Todopro a great tool for it.
Brilliant! That's pretty much what I was looking for. Awesome. So, now my focus list works the way I want it to, the last piece of the puzzle is "waiting" tasks. Would you recommend creating a "waiting" context instead of a "waiting" list for tasks that are pending some external trigger (i.e. waiting for an email or phone call with a bit of info before I can complete a particular project subtask)
I think that depends on how you have Todo set up. For me, having a list named "waiting" would never work. I use tags as status because I can turn them on and off to filter out tasks I don't want to see. I also have a lot of tasks in different lists (and I use Todo Cloud so many of my lists are shared lists with other people). The tag filters will stick so if you don't want to see the "waiting" tasks while working on everything else you can turn that tag "off" in your views. Contexts are designed to only be able to see either all contexts, tasks with no context, or a specific context. Because of the nature of a context, you can't mix and see more than one at a time. That's why tags will give you more flexibility there.
Thanks. Is there a way to select a particular tag for exclusion (other than selecting every other tag and omitting it)?
In my opinion ToDo is a proven GTD app. Let me introduce my setting, which solves the dilemma of the original starter of this thread who complained that a task cannot be associated to a personalized list and a project at the same time. In my model it can!
- NOW (tasks in this list are shown in the Focus list)
- NEXT (tasks in this list are not shown in the Focus list)
- SCHEDULED (tasks in this list are shown in Focus list when due)
- SOMEDAY (tasks in this list are not shown in the Focus list)
- WAITING (tasks in this list are not shown in the Focus list)
- Project 1
- Project 2
Let's follow the life cycle of a fresh task "Order christmas gift" that sits in my Inbox:
1) decision which context it belongs to: Assign it to context "Family".
2) When shall I place the order? Someday? No. Next? Yes -> Move it to list "Next" (task has now context Family and sits in list "NEXT").
3) Christmas is approaching very fast. Ordering becomes urgent -> Assign task to list "NOW". The task still has context "Family" but is in list "NOW). At the same time the task is now showing in the built-in Focus list (even without a due date)
4) I have placed the order at Amazon: Assign task to list "WAITING" while waiting for the delivery. Task is still in context Family but in list "WAITING" now".
5) Amazon has delivered the package. I complete the task
New task "Clean attic" which I hate to do.
1) Assign it to context "Private"
2) Assign to list "SOMEDAY"
3) Schedule it for next spring (set due date to 1 MAR and assign it to list "SCHEDULED"
Task will show up in Focus list on 1 MAR when it's due
4) On 1 MAR I procrastinate -> Assign it to list "Next" and it vanishes from my Focus list :-)
This kind of "flow" is working for all kind of tasks in any of my projects, even when I delegate a task.
I can filter the context and see the status (NOW, NEXT, WAITING, SOMEDAY") of all the tasks in this single project (technically context) or remove the context filter and see the status of all tasks over all my projects (which are contexts technically).
Summarizing, a tasks stays in its original context (representing the GTD project) over its whole life-cycle and is only moved between the lists, which represent the time dimension (the GTD buckets).
Perfect GTD for me!
Hi- I'm new to TODO and this conversation is very useful to me because I'm a regular user of the GTD system. I currently use ToodleDo to back up my system and enter information into it online. For the most part, I think I've figured out how to configure TODO to work with my set-up in ToodleDo. Except for one little problem...
When I create project files with subtasks that are tagged differently than the main project (e.g., tag = waiting) and then do a search on the tag, the main project comes up instead of just the subtask that has the specific tag I searched on. Is there a setting I'm missing that 'frees' the subtasks, so they show up on their own?
I know I can click the task and the subtask will show, but that's extremely inconvenient when you're trying to assess your lists.
Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions you might have.
P.S. This app is so pretty, but it sure would make life a whole lot easier if it had the option to create smart lists based on tags and/or @contexts.
@ Dee Mart,
The behaviour you're asking for does exist but only in the Focus list. There is a setting in the Focus list named 'subtasks'. When turned on, and you filter for a specific tag, only the subtask will be displayed rather than the parent.
Thank you! I got it working. Unfortunately, Focus was the one list I was planning on not using... I can certainly use it instead of All Tasks for what I do, but I also have pretty much no reason to use any other lists in the main view. Everything needs to be organized by tags and contexts then searched to narrow it down. Since there's no way to save any of those searches as smart lists (based on tags or contexts) it seems like I'm leaving myself open to a lot of room for error. Plus, having sep useable list really helps organize and narrow things at a glance.
I'm thinking maybe TODO isn't quite right for my system. Bummer, because I reeeeally love the look of it over any other GTD app. If I'm missing anything here, please feel free to set me straight.
@ Dee Smart,
You're not missing anything. Saved filters aren't possible.
I was a Toodledo user a few years back and used their 'saved searches' feature, but it was only available on their web interface - the iOS app didn't have that functionality. But in any case the UI of their iOS app (and the website to be honest) was horrible.
But I don't miss that feature. It's really only three or four clicks to select a context and one or two tags and for some reason I kind of like doing it manually - something about being in the driver's seat so to speak, and being purposeful about what I am doing.
For me, Todo is a very powerful app with a great, clean, minimalist UI that stays out of my way and doesn't tempt me to play and tweak all day. It just helps me get things done.